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"In the mythical conversation I am here conducting with the poet laureate on the question of poetry and democracy, I would wish to know her mind on the question of Walt Whitman’s distinction between ‘grand common stock’ on the one hand and ‘mean flat average on the other’ on the other. It is my strong conviction that anyone propounding or advocating an aesthetic and ethical continuity between texting and poetry would need to have at least a considered opinion on this matter. My own considered opinion, I scarcely need to stress this surely, is that texting is the very embodiment of the ‘mean flat average’ and that democratic poetry, such as the laureate writes, and wishes to encourage school children to write, must be the expression of the ‘grand common stock’. True poetry, I hope to get away with this utterly vacuous phrase, is not a series of textings about the world, the world that we have authored and desire to go on self-authorising, it is a kind of intensely crafted and parallel world, but not an alternative or better world, since it is not here to offer us escape. "

I'm not sure why Hill would even bother to make this argument. Texting? Isn't this shooting fish in a barrel—yes, the fish is dead, but is this really a defense of his own ideas about poetry, which, stripped of all his wasted citations, amount to very little argument in this essay. The poems he cites to criticize are execrable, Plath is execrable, mostly. He cites Whitman but he does not engage with Whitman's profound challenge to his ideas. I find his evocation of "grand common stock" to be simply annoying when he uses to distinguish between the kind of poetry he's writing and all else that is successful: Keats, Shakespeare, Hardy, Frost etc etc. Of course there's a place for his poetry, I'm not denying it. But the poems that follow his theory of the "grand common stock" are far more numerous than the poetry he's defending. I think his phrase derives from the Chaucerian and post-Chaucerian period in which English poetry was pre-authorial, and often amounted to translations from Ovid, but the effect of the phrase is a kind of condescension, rather than a distinction worthy of consideration. The "grand common stock" is in fact the main high road of English poetry. There has always been a gnomic impulse in poetry, the desire to create and solve puzzles, but it is a byway. If it were the only road, poetry would cease to matter to anyone.

I appreciate the publication of these lectures, Nik, and they certainly bring me back to my days in class with Hill. Of course, at the time, I thought he was grand, and I still do, but my impulse then as well as now is to try to put his sound and fury into a right relation to the art.

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